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[text_block style=”style_1.png” align=”left”]In an increasingly fast-paced world, direct marketing may seem rather old-fashioned and archaic. Online promotion and email are the hottest things on the block, and they are undeniably cheaper. However, truly connecting with customers may be the solution to attracting them and actually giving them more satisfaction.

In this episode, Brian Kurtz shares his experiences as a direct response marketer. He discusses his insights on managing lists as well as marketing in the modern era. He also emphasizes the importance of direct mail, even in the age of email and online marketing.

Join us and learn more about the art of direct marketing!

About Our Guest:

Brian Kurtz is an award-winning marketer who started as a list manager. He is the CEO of Titans Marketing and the executive VP of Boardroom Inc., an established publishing and direct mail company. He has sold millions of newsletter subscriptions and consumer books as he journeyed from being a list manager to a marketing master.

Direct Marketing for Direct Success

Brian’s Beginnings in Direct Marketing

As a senior in college, he debated being a baseball umpire, a film critic, or a CPA.
As an English major, he started a job at a publishing company.
He then became a list manager at Boardroom Inc. after he proved his skills in marketing.
He realized the importance of copywriting and understanding what makes people tick.
Gary Halbert said, “Every business problem can be solved with a great sales letter.”

The Basics of List Management

The concept of RFM is important: recency, frequency, and monetary value.
You want to have different messaging to different segments of your list.
Treat lists of different sizes the same, whether there are thousands or millions of people.
Your ex-buyers or previous customers are going to be your best list.
The objections of your previous customers who don’t subscribe anymore are the issues you have to resolve.
A new person will be more difficult to get back, but you’ll also learn new things.

Biggest Challenges in Direct Marketing

Getting into the infomercial scene on television was a big personal challenge for him.
His anxiety and insomnia led into a million-dollar franchise.
Journaling helped him keep track of himself and his daily habits.
One of his lightbulb moments is realizing how to increase their reach with more content.

How to Bring In New Products

It is important to develop the front end and back end and go deep into a product that resonates with your audience the most.
It is more important to go deeper with more niche than wider.
In direct marketing, the audience will tell you when you should scale to the maximum.
The scaling will come to you, instead of you forcing the scale.

The Beauty of Direct Marketing

You can’t force a product on an audience; you have to sell benefits and give people something that they really need.
In direct marketing, everything is measurable.
You have to know what the needs of the world are, even if they don’t want it.
Know the signs of what things you need to notice.
Let the market tell you where to go.

Strategy on Infomercials

A general rule is to offer the call to action sooner than later.
However, if you aren’t known, build the case, the content and the sale message before offering the call to action.
Always follow the anecdotal evidence and the models that work.

Tips on Direct Mailing and Email

You can do surveys online for new products then move them into direct mail.
It is possible to test a copy online, but you have to track your traffic.
Online media is cheap, but you still have to track because you can lose money if you don’t.
Human nature hasn’t changed, and what makes people vibrate is universally the same.
Every time you mail to somebody or contact somebody, you could be taking away response from a future offer that you have if you’re not addressing them in the right way.
In online marketing, every piece of promotion must have a purpose.
Paying the more expensive route of direct mailing may pay off even though email is cheaper.
Email may work, but it can sometimes be lazy and could turn off more people than you want.

Habits of Successful Business Owners

Respect your own time.
Overloading doesn’t serve anyone and is a disservice to others.
Prioritize the tasks you have to do for the day.
Give yourself permission to be ruthless.
Practice gratefulness all the time.
If you’re envious of the success of others, you are going to get physically ill.
Having a victim mentality will only set you back.

Resources

Overdeliver by Brian Kurtz
Breakthrough Advertising by Eugene Schwartz

For more insights about list management and direct marketing, connect with Brian through LinkedIn or his website.

P.S.

Do you already have a successful business, meaning you’re up, running, and paying your bills with some profit left over?
Are you interested in growing your business, automating/streamlining things, and staying one step ahead of your competition?
Do you want to achieve your goals, get more things done in less time, and double your sales?

? If you can answer YES to all three questions, please reach out to me through Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/daryl.urbanski, and describe your situation, goals, and the best time/way to contact you.

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[text_block style="style_1.png" align="left"]<span style="font-weight: 400;">In an increasingly fast-paced world, direct marketing may seem rather old-fashioned and archaic. Online promotion and email are the hottest things on the block, and they are undeniably cheaper. However, truly connecting with customers may be the solution to attracting them and actually giving them more satisfaction.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">In this episode, Brian Kurtz shares his experiences as a direct response marketer. He discusses his insights on managing lists as well as marketing in the modern era. He also emphasizes the importance of direct mail, even in the age of email and online marketing.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Join us and learn more about the art of direct marketing!</span><br />
<h2><b>About Our Guest:</b></h2><br />
<b>Brian Kurtz</b><span style="font-weight: 400;"> is an award-winning marketer who started as a list manager. He is the CEO of Titans Marketing and the executive VP of Boardroom Inc., an established publishing and direct mail company. He has sold millions of newsletter subscriptions and consumer books as he journeyed from being a list manager to a marketing master. </span><br />
<h2><b>Direct Marketing for Direct Success</b></h2><br />
<h3><b>Brian’s Beginnings in Direct Marketing</b></h3><br />
<ul><br />
	<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">As a senior in college, he debated being a baseball umpire, a film critic, or a CPA.</span></li><br />
	<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">As an English major, he started a job at a publishing company.</span></li><br />
	<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">He then became a list manager at Boardroom Inc. after he proved his skills in marketing.</span></li><br />
	<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">He realized the importance of copywriting and understanding what makes people tick.</span></li><br />
	<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Gary Halbert said, “Every business problem can be solved with a great <a href="https://www.members.bestbusinesscoach.ca/sales-strategy-sales-skills/" data-internallinksmanager029f6b8e52c="9" title="Sales Strategy &#038; Sales Skills">sales</a> letter.”</span></li><br />
</ul><br />
<h3><b>The Basics of List Management</b></h3><br />
<ul><br />
	<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">The concept of RFM is important: recency, frequency, and monetary value.</span></li><br />
	<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">You want to have different messaging to different segments of your list.</span></li><br />
	<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Treat lists of different sizes the same, whether there are thousands or millions of people.</span></li><br />
	<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Your ex-buyers or previous customers are going to be your best list.</span></li><br />
	<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">The objections of your previous customers who don’t subscribe anymore are the issues you have to resolve.</span></li><br />
	<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">A new person will be more difficult to get back, but you’ll also learn new things.</span></li><br />
</ul><br />
<h3><b>Biggest Challenges in Direct Marketing</b></h3><br />
<ul><br />
	<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Getting into the infomercial scene on television was a big personal challenge for him.</span></li><br />
	<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">His anxiety and insomnia led into a million-dollar franchise.</span></li><br />
	<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Journaling helped him keep track of himself and his daily <a href="https://www.members.bestbusinesscoach.ca/habit-tracker-and-business-coaching-results-mastermind/" data-internallinksmanager029f6b8e52c="12" title="Business Coaching Results Mastermind">habits</a>.</span></li><br />
	<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">One of his lightbulb moments is realizing how to increase their reach with more content.</span></li><br />
</ul><br />
<h3><b>How to Bring In New Products</b></h3><br />
<ul><br />
	<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">It is important to develop the front end and back end and go deep into a product that resonates with your audience the most.</span></li><br />
	<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">It is more important to go deeper with more niche than wider.</span></li><br />
	<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">In direct marketing, the audience will tell you when you should scale to the maximum.</span></li><br />
	<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">The scaling will come to you, instead of you forcing the scale.</span></li><br />
</ul><br />
<h3><b>The Beauty of Direct Marketing</b></h3><br />
<ul><br />
	<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">You can't force a product on an audience; you have to sell benefits and give people something that they really need.</span></li><br />
	<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">In direct marketing, everything is measurable.</span></li><br />
	<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">You have to know what the needs of the world are, even if they don’t want it.</span></li><br />
	<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Know the signs of what things you need to notice.</span></li><br />
	<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Let the market tell you where to go.</span></li><br />
</ul><br />
<h3><b>Strategy on Infomercials</b></h3><br />
<ul><br />
	<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">A general rule is to offer the call to action sooner than later.</span></li><br />
	<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">However, if you aren’t known, build the case, the content and the sale message before offering the call to action.</span></li><br />
	<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Always follow the anecdotal evidence and the models that work.</span></li><br />
</ul><br />
<h3><b>Tips on Direct Mailing and Email</b></h3><br />
<ul><br />
	<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">You can do surveys online for new products then move them into direct mail.</span></li><br />
	<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">It is possible to test a copy online, but you have to track your traffic.</span></li><br />
	<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Online media is cheap, but you still have to track because you can lose money if you don’t.</span></li><br />
	<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Human nature hasn’t changed, and what makes people vibrate is universally the same.</span></li><br />
	<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Every time you mail to somebody or contact somebody, you could be taking away response from a future offer that you have if you're not addressing them in the right way.</span></li><br />
	<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">In online marketing, every piece of promotion must have a purpose.</span></li><br />
	<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Paying the more expensive route of direct mailing may pay off even though email is cheaper.</span></li><br />
	<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Email may work, but it can sometimes be lazy and could turn off more people than you want.</span></li><br />
</ul><br />
<h3><b><a href="https://www.members.bestbusinesscoach.ca/habit-tracker-and-business-coaching-results-mastermind/" data-internallinksmanager029f6b8e52c="12" title="Business Coaching Results Mastermind">Habits</a> of Successful Business Owners</b></h3><br />
<ul><br />
	<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Respect your own time.</span></li><br />
	<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Overloading doesn't serve anyone and is a disservice to others.</span></li><br />
	<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Prioritize the tasks you have to do for the day.</span></li><br />
	<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Give yourself permission to be ruthless.</span></li><br />
	<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Practice gratefulness all the time.</span></li><br />
	<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">If you're envious of the success of others, you are going to get physically ill.</span></li><br />
	<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Having a victim mentality will only set you back.</span></li><br />
</ul><br />
<h2><b>Resources</b></h2><br />
<ul><br />
	<li><span style="font-weight: 400;">     </span><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Overdeliver-Business-Lifetime-Response-Marketing-ebook/dp/B07FLZH6S1"><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Overdeliver</span></i></a><span style="font-weight: 400;"> by Brian Kurtz</span></li><br />
	<li><span style="font-weight: 400;">     </span><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Breakthrough-Advertising-Eugene-M-Schwartz/dp/0887232981"><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Breakthrough Advertising</span></i></a><span style="font-weight: 400;"> by Eugene Schwartz</span></li><br />
</ul><br />
<span style="font-weight: 400;">For more insights about list management and direct marketing, connect with Brian through</span><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/brian-kurtz-a1934/"> <span style="font-weight: 400;">LinkedIn</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;"> or his</span> <a href="https://www.briankurtz.net/"><span style="font-weight: 400;">website</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">.</span></p>
<p><p>&nbsp;</p><span style="font-weight: 400;">P.S.</span><br />
<ul><br />
	<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Do you already have a successful business, meaning you're up, running, and paying your bills with some profit left over?</span></li><br />
	<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Are you interested in growing your business, automating/streamlining things, and staying one step ahead of your competition?</span></li><br />
	<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Do you want to achieve your goals, get more things done in less time, and double your sales?</span></li><br />
</ul><br />
<p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">? If you can answer YES to all three questions, please reach out to me through Facebook:</span><a href="https://www.facebook.com/daryl.urbanski"> <span style="font-weight: 400;">https://www.facebook.com/daryl.urbanski</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">, and describe your situation, goals, and the best time/way to contact you.</span></p>[/text_block]

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Would it help you to talk to other high-level entrepreneurs about their journeys, their mistakes and how they overcame their challenges to create the lives and financial success they desire?

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<p>Would it help you to have a mentor who can cut your learning curve by sharing their mistakes with you so you could avoid them?</p>
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